Why Narcissists Stay Stuck in Fantasy—and What It Takes to Break Through

In this final clip from my interview on Valerie Greene’s Soul Shaking Love podcast, we explore two more essential questions about narcissistic relationships: How can you encourage someone to seek the help they need? And what makes real change so psychologically difficult for those with narcissistic traits?

We unpack the split between the narcissist’s fantasy world and the painful reality they avoid—and why bridging that gap is often the hardest, but most crucial, part of the healing process.